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I'd Like to teach the World to Sing (via New Media Conference #5,844) | 5 comments

[new] interesting in the context of a previous thread (Avg. Score: none / Raters: 0) (#5)
by qpdoll on Sun May 25th, 2003 at 11:33:21 PM EURODISCORDIA TIME
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kind of interesting in the context of this discussion... and here was my opinion on things...

keep your head facing forward and keep reaching beyond your ears...
-qp

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[new] applying specifics to the general, and... (Avg. Score: none / Raters: 0) (#4)
by amy on Sun May 25th, 2003 at 11:16:15 PM EURODISCORDIA TIME
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i dig what you are saying rachel, but.. i think we need to be careful not to regard specifics as though they are all of new media. for example, if you want to take 'software art'... what is it? it's actually a very broad category... this has been one of our interests at runme.org - presenting the breadth of what is 'software art' (and that's part of why, after last year, we decided not to make read_me a competition - selected works might seem to narrow the definition too much.) some software art refers to geek culture - but culture means people, not technologies... but most software art doesn't require much tech knowledge to understand - OR art knowledge - the intent is in most cases for it to be interesting to regular people, (whoever they are :-) )... for many(most?) of us, software art is interesting because it deals with the implications software has on *people* - does microsoft word influence what you write? in most cases, it's not technological fetishism... however, dealing with software culture is important too, i.e., recognizing and not ignoring what is going on in geek culture, even when it's about appreciating code or strange tech.. but that's one aspect; there are many... anyway, that 'is this just for programmers?' question is one of the things we talked about at a panel i was on which is posted on softwareart.net

also, if you read some of the texts posted on runme.org in the texts section, you'll find the quickview which also deals with that subject, as well as other texts primarily dealing with the cultural aspects of software.

in any case, the entire point is to bring software art out into the 'world' - almost all of us runme developers are committed to accessibility in our work - i.e. 'not just for programmers' but also 'not just for artworld people' ...

that's the software art aspect of your comment - now for other media art, i've already mentioned several projects which focus on politics, the implications of biotech, etc... and there are zillions more...

as to the 'art world doesn't accept us' aspect - parts of the art world do, but this is not always all that useful for the media artist. many of us have been approached by museums, biennales, etc. to exhibit our project, but the results are not always satisfying. personally, i generally allow museums to exhibit my projects, but as my projects don't need museums, such exhibition can only be peripheral to the more 'public' presentations... i personally find it much more rewarding to exhibit to the general public on the net (or in performance, or wherever) and getting mainstream press than i am having the work in museums - but i realize there's a museum crowd too, so if my project is in a museum, i don't see it as a bad thing..

but anyway, i think the question is, if "tech for tech's sake" projects and hypy festivals appear to be dominating the new media scene when so much else is going on, why is that? is it an issue of 'who shouts the loudest?'

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