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How would you call a baby blog? | 7 comments

[new] The difference between tools and contents (Avg. Score: 3.00 / Raters: 1) (#6)
by TamarSchori on Sun Jun 22nd, 2003 at 07:06:55 AM EURODISCORDIA TIME
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I find your comment a tad aggressive Trebor. Beadgee is not about a community but about the means for communal expression. This leads to a debate about the difference between tools and contents. Art is not a tool, it may comment or prompt or change point of views. How would an art form that relies on tools achieve a distinct point of view that is disconnected from its medium? A delicate question, I'm sure...

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[new] using the term community (Avg. Score: none / Raters: 0) (#7)
by Aileen on Sun Jun 22nd, 2003 at 10:13:36 PM EURODISCORDIA TIME
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Trebor, I think you may be misinterpreting what I meant. Tamar asked about our experience with Discordia and building a means for community. Since we are obviously using the term and it clearly plays an important role, I was thinking about the many long discussions we have had over the past one and a half years - both explicitly about "community" and sometimes just using this term for lack of a better one. That is why the question startled me, but I admit I didn't take the time to go back through hundreds of messages again to try to distill some kind of consensus.
Tamar, to try to find some kind of relevant response to your question, while all of us have had various ideas about the people and groups that we could imagine using Discordia, I think the main issue has been the recognition that it is not possible for an individual to cope with the mass of information that is available, so one strategy could be to join together with other people to try to cope collectively - hence "Collaborative Filtering and Community Moderating". The difficult part is trying to imagine a structure to facilitate that, which is the whole point of this experiment.
And I like the way you describe it as magic.

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[new] art, communities, cabbages and kings (Avg. Score: none / Raters: 0) (#5)
by amy on Sat Jun 21st, 2003 at 11:24:44 PM EURODISCORDIA TIME
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i think rules like "art and community don't mix" make life boring trebor! :-)

ok, first i'll start by saying, yeah, community's a hypy word, but, i think it's a common trap to waylay discussions by fretting over how the nomenclature isn't up to snuff. almost no nomenclature does its referrent justice, but we get the idea, so lets go with it and get more into the discussion.

anyway, artists making communities: yeah, often it doesn't work, or the projects are too hypy or whatever. but maybe that looks at projects that define community in a particular way (which you don't find interesting.) some community media art projects i've found interesting:

Refresh

Deskswap
(if you haven't had a chance to play with it, it's strangely addictive, and obviously forms 'community' in an unexpected way)

The old mailing list "everyone can be Keiko Suzuki" projects

The recent Mob Project

and also some others including some in progress, using both online and offline contexts....

# begin amy's sig
-- Discordia is nice.
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